gyptazy

@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Believer in the power of open-source & community-driven innovation.

Former AS20621 NetOp that loves FreeBSD & illumos. Currently mostly in DevOps & developing (Python, Rust). Contributes to & . Evaluating and production usage of hardware/software.

Projects:
* BoxyBSD.com - A free VM hosting service to provide some value back to the community.
* manpageblog.org - A static blog generator in manpage design.
* QualvoSec - A security patch management tool.
Bloghttps://gyptazy.ch
GitHubhttps://github.com/gyptazy
Xhttps://twitter.com/gyptazy

Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Another great article by @gyptazy :
Howto Create a Cheap Multi Site High Availability Setup with a Wireguard Tunnel

gyptazy.ch/howtos/howto-create

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@stefano@bsd.cafe oh, thanks for sharing :) appreciate it 👍

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Joel Carnat ♑ 🤪 »
@joel@piou.foolbazar.eu

@gyptazy @stefano hum... am I wrong expecting the whole service to be down/unavailable if the CH cluster goes down?

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d4gli »
@d4gli@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@stefano @gyptazy that sounds great and looks not too hard! Thank you

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BoxyBSD »
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d4gli »
@d4gli@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@BoxyBSD @gyptazy you have a typo in the abuse mail ;P

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@d4gli@bsd.cafe @BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe Thanks, will fix it!

Amaryllis le Fay »
@wednesday@ni.hil.ist

@BoxyBSD

FreeBSD doesn't have CPU part ids for most of the Apple arm64 CPUs. this was recently fixed for M1 and M2, but not if you're on a later CPU.

also if you're running under HVF, it fakes the midr and FreeBSD can't recognise the CPU at all.

@gyptazy

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Amaryllis le Fay »
@wednesday@ni.hil.ist

@BoxyBSD

looking more closely at your midr, i think you are on HVF, so it's impossible for the guest OS to identify the CPU.

@gyptazy

BoxyBSD »
@BoxyBSD@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@wednesday @gyptazy thanks, this is running on M1 cpu. But this post is about upcoming ARM64 support at BoxyBSD, not about the missing cpu ids. But thanks for providing the info here! Appreciate it!

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Amaryllis le Fay »
@wednesday@ni.hil.ist

@BoxyBSD

ah okay. i thought you circled "Apple Unknown" in your screen so i replied about that.

sorry if your issue was something else.

@gyptazy

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BoxyBSD »
@BoxyBSD@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@wednesday @gyptazy no worries, it was still valuable and helpful :)

dch »
@dch@bsd.network

@BoxyBSD @gyptazy oooh you using bhyve arm64?

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe It’s running on 2x Mac mini with each having Apple Silicon M1 and only 16GB memory - so this won’t be a product for the mainstream. Don’t know how I’ll make it usable…. Maybe a fixed time of a week or month to give more people the possibility to use it?!

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d4gli »
@d4gli@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@gyptazy @BoxyBSD and the network?

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@d4gli@bsd.cafe @BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe each system with 100Mbit up/down only but of course still with /64 subnet for each VM. Guess it’ll be 10 VMs only for each server (so only 20 ARM boxes in general).

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d4gli »
@d4gli@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@gyptazy @BoxyBSD thanks! That should be enough

jhx »
@jhx@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Think I set up on to play around with a monitoring solution to some extent. Not really using anything other than at the moment.
/ would be nice as well.
Mhh, let's see.

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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@jhx I like uptimekuma and also use LibreNMS for resource monitoring - good old snmp

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jhx »
@jhx@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@stefano
That would also be a possibility!
is LibreNMS easy to handle?

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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@jhx Yes, it is. Once configured, adding hosts is easy and monitoring is good. I use it for my servers, with uptimekuma, for different purposes.

Marcel Stritzelberger »
@marzlberger@mastodon.online

@jhx i use zabbix for multiple systems.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@jhx@bsd.cafe for me it’s Icinga 2 for classic monitoring of services (availability in general). For performance metrics I run Grafana/Prometheus (, which I also use for to quickly detect service abusing (ntp/dns/mail traffic, overall bandwidth,…).

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

We just released 7.5.30 & 2.2.15 ( & forks keeping the license).

* Plutono: Fix roleAttributionPath
* Plutono: Fix null pointer references
* Plutono: Security - Update crewjam/saml to 0.4.14
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https://gyptazy.ch/notes/plutono-7-5-30-and-vali-valitail-2-2-15-release-a-grafana-fork/


DesRoin »
@DesRoin@geekdom.social

On the road again 🤓✌🏻

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DesRoin »
@DesRoin@geekdom.social

@gyptazy thanks! 🤓✌🏻

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@DesRoin@geekdom.social du kommst doch aus dem Pott oder? Du bist nicht zufällig später Haus scheppen in essen?

lproven »
@lproven@social.vivaldi.net

Gentoo and NetBSD ban 'AI' code, but Debian doesn't – yet

theregister.com/2024/05/18/dis

The problem isn't just that LLM-bot generated code is bad – it's where it came from

<- by me on @theregister

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@lproven@vivaldi.net @theregister@geeknews.chat you can often see bad generated code from a software perspective. Yes, it is functional but often lacks various aspects of modern security and performances approaches. So, I can fully understand this.

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lproven »
@lproven@social.vivaldi.net

@gyptazy @theregister I agree -- but that's not what I was writing about at all...

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@lproven@vivaldi.net @theregister@geeknews.chat hm, slightly you did by linking the article which also says (quoted) "Code quality is almost self-explanatory: these tools often produce extremely poor quality code.“.

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lproven »
@lproven@social.vivaldi.net

@gyptazy @theregister Yes, the point being, I dismissed that in a sentence and spent the rest of 1000 words talking about the significance of LLMs and why LLM bots are not AI.

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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@david Hi! It's something you have to do when configuring the instance. It's just a matter of setting LOCAL_DOMAIN and WEB_DOMAIN (and some minor reverse proxy configurations), as described here: docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/co

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David Cross »
@david@mastodon.crossfamilyweb.com

@stefano
"As with LOCAL_DOMAIN, WEB_DOMAIN cannot be safely changed once set, as this will confuse remote servers that know of your previous settings and may break communication with them or make it unreliable. As the issues lie with remote servers’ understanding of your accounts, re-installing Mastodon from scratch will not fix the issue. Therefore, please be extremely cautious when setting up LOCAL_DOMAIN and WEB_DOMAIN."

Well, 💩

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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@david Yes, this cannot be changed later 😔

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David Cross »
@david@mastodon.crossfamilyweb.com

@stefano I *want* to say that didn't exist when I set up my instance in ~april 2017. I WANT to say that, because I remember looking VERY hard for that... but I see that document was created in ~may 2017, with the pull request on april 24, 2016 (about a week after I sett things up).. so it probably DID exist... but at least the PR says it was "poorly documented"

Oh well, as a single user instance, maybe I just nuke myself back to nothing

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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@david While it's nice to have the domain name (without the mastodon.x.x), I don't think it's a big problem...people usually don't consider that. I consider it just something "cosmetic". More, I did it wrong at first, so people couldn't be found if omitting the "mastodon" (mastodon.bsd.cafe) - I fixed it months later 🙂

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@stefano@bsd.cafe @david@mastodon.crossfamilyweb.com I must admit, that at least I don’t want to have the software name like mastodon or snac in MY url. I like to have just the same as an email, xmpp, matrix and fedi account url. I think especially when having intendedly a short url, this matters for people most. Sure, you can solve it to be still reachable by that address, but often clients will show the real url instead which also gets listed in replies etc.

Switching domains or whole software products is still a mess on the Fediverse - unfortunately

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David Cross »
@david@mastodon.crossfamilyweb.com

@gyptazy @stefano Yes, I agree here, it SHOULD be like email, XMPP, etc.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@cnx@larkspur.one I'd more assume that one power meter is not accurate.

Having a look at the specs of the VF2 doesn’t solve the issue for me:
https://doc-en.rvspace.org/VisionFive2/Datasheet/VisionFive_2/power_consumption.html

So the standby is 4.1W in table 1 and full 9.3W in table 3.

But I think element 1 and 2 in table 3 are mixed? They’re the same except of a fan on top, but with fan lower consumption?

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McSinyx »
@cnx@larkspur.one

@gyptazy, speaking of the VF2 and fans, do you happen to know if the fan’s 2-pin power delivery is always 5 V or is it the same as that of the power supply?

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@cnx@larkspur.one honestly, I haven't validated it but according to https://doc-en.rvspace.org/VisionFive2/PDF/VisionFive2_QSG.pdf on page 21, I'd guess it's always max. 5V.

But maybe @DesRoin@geekdom.social can tell us more here.

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McSinyx »
@cnx@larkspur.one

Thanks, @gyptazy, until further input from @DesRoin, I’d interpret that as the pin is 5 V like the GPIO ones. Worst case it’ll just spin really fast and I should be able to notice that?

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

That's also how I'd understand this. Just had another look at the docs, where it defines the input power support on page 15 with:
* Power adapter with fixed voltage from 5 V to 20 V on the USB C power port
* Support USB Type C PD 2.0, 9 V/2 A, 12 V/2 A, 15 V/2 A, 20 V/2 A

So (but it's still guessed), it is fixed to the 5V for the fan.

CC: @DesRoin@geekdom.social

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DesRoin »
@DesRoin@geekdom.social

@gyptazy @cnx it ought to be fixed 5V since otherwise it'd be completely unusable.
If you use a multi voltage power supply the VF2 and the power supply decide together what voltage the box runs on (hence it can be either 5V or 12V and you wouldn't know unless the PSU shows it), however the voltage being output to the peripherals on the board are always the same, if they weren't you'd fry a fair bit of conductors on there 😅

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@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Chema shook his head gravely »
@chema@ctrvx.net

If you're looking to host your very own single-user/a-few-users instance, you cannot go wrong with . It is simple to install on Ubuntu and works very well with some really solid clients. It is also written in C, so it is fast, with few dependencies. Great work @grunfink@comam.es, you've got a new monthly supporter on Ko-fi!

https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2

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The Real Grunfink »
@grunfink@comam.es

Thank you very much for your support!

Jef Poskanzer »
@jef@mastodon.social

@chema @grunfink Endorse. I haven't installed it yet but as a fellow portable C enthusiast I checked it out and did a test compile. No complaints, looks great, including the man pages.

ewhac »
@ewhac@mastodon.social

@chema @grunfink Just got this working inside a FreeBSD jail on my LAN. It took rather longer than I imagined, as some of the instructions were misleading, and nginx was being pissy about wanting a full Let'sEncrypt cert chain rather than just the leaf. But I got it up.

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The Real Grunfink »
@grunfink@comam.es

What instructions did you find misleading? I would like 's documentation to be as accurate as possible.

CC: @chema@ctrvx.net

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@ewhac@mastodon.social @chema@ctrvx.net As @grunfink@comam.es mentioned, which instructions? Did you used the linked one to my one at https://gyptazy.ch/blog/install-snac2-on-freebsd-an-activitypub-instance-for-the-fediverse/ ? If yes, let me know what didn't work out for you to update the docs.

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ewhac »
@ewhac@mastodon.social

@gyptazy @chema @grunfink 1/n: I'm fighting a 500-char limit, so bear with me:

The rc.d script `examples/snac_freebsd` needs to be modified before use, changing `SNAC_DATA_PATH` to the location of snac2's data (which is later established as `/home/snac/data`).

`pw useradd snac -s /bin/sh` is insufficient -- it doesn't create the user's homedir. This should be:

```
pw useradd snac -m -s /bin/sh
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ewhac »
@ewhac@mastodon.social

@gyptazy @chema @grunfink 2/n: `examples/nginx-alpine-ssl/default.conf` needs to be modified before use. The `proxy_pass` fields need to be modified to point to the local snac port, which was earlier established as `localhost:8001`.

Further, nginx does not scan any .d subdirectories for configuration files out of the box. In nginx.conf, in the `server` block, you must add a directive to the effect of:

```
include vhosts.d/*.conf
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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@ewhac@mastodon.social @chema@ctrvx.net @grunfink@comam.es proxy_pass depends... If not running on the same host (what I would never do, because there's a dedicated system used for this), you will still need to change if from localhost to anything else. Better would be defining an upstream server with the name snac which gets defined to the according backend system. However, let's not confuse people with such things and assume it's running on the same host.

ewhac »
@ewhac@mastodon.social

@gyptazy @chema @grunfink 3/n: The HOWTO establishes different hostnames when setting up snac versus nginx (`snac01.gyptazy.ch` versus `snac.gyptazy.ch`), but doesn't explain why this was done. Indeed, this seems like a thing to *not* do, as snac uses the hostname you give it to generate URLs to itself.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@ewhac@mastodon.social @chema@ctrvx.net @grunfink@comam.es thanks for pointing out, but this is indeed intended. Not needed for snac, but also not any problem. the snac01 is the hostname of one of my HA snac instances for failover but also used from the monitoring system which obtain the systems from a CMDB. That’s the reason behind it. Will make it more clear and update the doc :) thanks

ewhac »
@ewhac@mastodon.social

@gyptazy @chema @grunfink 4/n: I'm not using certbot for my Let's Encrypt certs, because I have a cert with a wildcard SAN, my DNS provider doen't support API access to update TXT records, so I get to do it all by hand. Every three months.

A brief note to the effect that nginx wants the entire cert chain, not just the leaf cert, would be welcome.

...Oh, not sure why you version-pinned certbot at 2.6 in the `pkg install`. FreeBSD 13.2 is on cerbot 2.9.

ewhac »
@ewhac@mastodon.social

@gyptazy @chema @grunfink 5/5: That's all I can recall at the moment.

The snac build process itself was surprisingly painless and quick. Very nicely done! Once it works, it's kinda neat.

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The Real Grunfink »
@grunfink@comam.es

Thank you very much for your notes. I've boosted them because they may prove useful for future users while the documentation is improved.

I'm glad you like .

CC: @gyptazy@gyptazy.ch @chema@ctrvx.net

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@grunfink@comam.es @ewhac@mastodon.social @chema@ctrvx.net updated the howto regarding the mentioned things.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@ewhac@mastodon.social @chema@ctrvx.net @grunfink@comam.es thanks for pointing out, I’ll update it to make it more clear.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@ewhac@mastodon.social @chema@ctrvx.net @grunfink@comam.es I've updated the howto for the mentioned things. Thanks for reporting.

vv221 »
@vv221@fediverse.dotslashplay.it

snac is the reason I joined the Fediverse in the first place. This is the only server software I know that tries to mitigate the addiction mechanisms common to most micro-blogging platforms.

CC: @grunfink@comam.es

Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Just a few dozen kilometers from here, a tornado or downburst overturned a train. My wife said it was deadly outside, with rain and wind. I was at the BSD Pub Meeting and didn't notice a thing...

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oxy »
@oxyhyxo@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@stefano glowing endorsement!

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@stefano@bsd.cafe unfortunately, I guess we will encounter such things more frequently even here in Europe. We just had the first kind of tornados (luckily still very small ones) but I think it’ll increase and happens more often year by year. Guess, we need to deal with it somehow and learn to prepare for such situations quickly.

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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@gyptazy I agree. And I think we won't be ready anytime soon.

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BoxyBSD »
@BoxyBSD@mastodon.bsd.cafe

is testing the the public shell service where you can get your own unix user login on different systems w/o further limitations.

Closed beta currently: boxybsd.com/shell/

This could also lead into solutions for but still not sure how useful it might be nowadays in general.

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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@BoxyBSD that's great, thank you!

hubertf »
@hubertf@mastodon.social

@BoxyBSD "Note: Signup is currently deactivated." :-(

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BoxyBSD »
@BoxyBSD@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@hubertf Please don't just copy the first part - the second part tells you "Please get in touch with us in our Matrix chat to get a free shell account.". So, easiest way is currently to get directly in touch with @gyptazy

d4gli »
@d4gli@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@BoxyBSD Thanks for this awesome service. Using it from the first day and works more reliable than my paid ones!

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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Tonight's BSDPub meeting was really interesting, and next week we already have the first major topic: backups and their strategies.
It will be really fascinating.

Thanks to everyone who participated!

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

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Lovis IX ♿ »
@lovisix@social.zdx.fr

@gyptazy

It was a great meeting. I hope my English is not to bas and my accent not to hard to understand.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@lovisix@social.zdx.fr it was perfectly fine! Were there for the tech stuff, not for speaking perfect Oxford English 😉

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Today's meeting was very interesting (even I had to vamp while driving on the highway). Next week, we will focus on backup solutions and I’m already very happy to hear about your setups!

Thanks for joining and sharing all your insights! But there's one more thing - should the call keep time boxed of 60 minutes or open end? I think today we would have needed more time but I can clearly understand when the call takes too long in the evening and people start to drop. People can of course stay in the room even after the official meeting.

Time boxed:8
Open end:3

Closed

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d4gli »
@d4gli@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@gyptazy I could only join first part. Too long is not good

Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@gyptazy Officially time boxed for the main and planned topics, then late chat for the ones who want to stay longer 🙂

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oxy »
@oxyhyxo@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@stefano @gyptazy agree with this (planning on attending next week!)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@stefano@bsd.cafe sounds good to me. Unfortunately, I mostly need to leave on time. Today, it got because I was still driving. And handling it that way, we do not need to cut down any discussions.

Michel Recondo »
@michel@social.recondo.com.br

I feel a little responsible for the extra time :)

I think tome boxed with some extra time for tolerance would be ideal.

And by the way, awesome meeting ❤️

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@michel@social.recondo.com.br no worries and happy to have you in the calls :)

Leonie »
@koyu@kopimi.space

How to selfhost your entire online life:

- Caddy (Webserver)
- Nextcloud (File storage, calendar, contacts etc.)
- Mailcow (E-Mail)
- ejabberd (XMPP, instant messaging)
- Invidious (YouTube client)
- Mastodon (social media)
- Vaultwarden (Passwords, credentials and secure file sharing, replaces services like 1Password or WeTransfer)
- Joplin (note taking)
- Miniflux (news)
- Agate (Gemini server for people who want to view your content through the CLI)

Thank me later :3

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@koyu@kopimi.space I guess these things sound very easy to people like us - like for a mechanic telling me in a car forum how easy it is to repair the 8 cylinder by machining of cylinder heads and grinding the cylinders while you just need some simple tools and a lift - assuming everyone has something like that in place.

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Leonie »
@koyu@kopimi.space

@gyptazy that's what sets us apart from novice computer users. the thing is knowing what to install on your new server is the first step. in the end each town has at least one computer person that volunteers getting these things set up or offer space on their own.

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BoxyBSD »
@BoxyBSD@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Would be a free public shell account service based on /#OpenBSD systems interesting for you? If yes, what would you run on it?

Please provide feedback, so @gyptazy can check if it makes sense to provide such a service (this is already available in a limited beta).

What to expect:
A free user login to a FreeBSD or based system where multiple users can access it at the same time. You can do everything in your own home directory, run processes, open sockets, compile stuff etc. System is managed in general for you.

What you cannot do:
Make changes to the system in general, use low ports, install or modify things system wide.

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d4gli »
@d4gli@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@BoxyBSD @gyptazy sounds cool and less overhead than a typical vm. I guess I would run a matrix and irc client in a screen session.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Remember when everyone was joking about the hardware requirements of is the new . Guess, it's only anymore!

Don't take it too serious :)


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Lily Star »
@starlily@mastodon.social

@gyptazy Ubuntu is the Windows of Linux.

raspbeguy »
@raspbeguy@social.gugod.fr

@gyptazy *Ubuntu is the new windows.

I still deploy VMs with 512M memory 8G disk...

0x1eef 🇵🇸 🍉 🫒 »
@0x1eef@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@gyptazy In some ways I think the Windows XP era was the golden era of computing. 🙂

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Ricardo Martín »
@fluxwatcher@mastodon.social

@0x1eef Like the days Windows NT was going to save us from the evil Novell NetWare empire lol
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@gyptazy

Bloat is not dependent on commercial models it seems.

Jeffrey Gordon »
@JeffreyGordon@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@gyptazy I know, not serious, but is that the 32 or the 64 bit chipset of the Pentium 4? That'll kill off a lot of modern operating systems - including FreeBSD 15

(edited added "bit")

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lw »
@lw@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@JeffreyGordon

well, in theory... we'll see if i386 actually gets removed for 15.0-RELEASE, it's still there for now.

@gyptazy

gme »
@gme@queerfedi.com

@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch To be fair FreeBSD has always been better than Linux, but Linux had better marketing.

radhitya 🇵🇸🇮🇩 »
@al1r4d@pegelinux.top

@gyptazy it's not linux, but ubuntu gnu/linux.. 🤭😅

Pink Panther »
@bgpepi@mastodon.social

@gyptazy Why I use NetBSD... NetBSD is small, light and simple On the i386, NetBSD requires 4MB of RAM and 40MB of disk space at bare minimum. For a full installation, 8 MB of RAM and 200 MB of disk are recommended.

luke.maurits.id.au/writing/why

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gyptazy »
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Michel Recondo »
@michel@social.recondo.com.br

And after some struggle, the chosen one is bastille ;)

cc @BastilleBSD@fosstodon.org

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@lovisix@social.zdx.fr I think giving it a try is at least not bad. If it doesn’t fit - it’s also ok. But so far, it looks pretty promising. Maybe you like to share some of your outcomes :)

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gyptazy »
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Also pretty cool the command which let's you easily create environments to share

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gyptazy »
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@michel@social.recondo.com.br Have fun :) Maybe you can provide us some insights in the next meeting :)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@stefano@bsd.cafe I'd more like plain text files like snac does, but sqlite is still okay for me. Better than having a whole pgsql for jail/bhyve meta informations ;)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

is unfortunately more or less deprecated and not actively maintained anymore. The last release was in 2015. It still works more or less (at least for me and my use cases) but after our last I thought it could not be wrong to have a look at other ones. is not brand new but it got my attention by some posts today here in my Fediverse circle. So far, it looks very promising - you can have an interactive look at it on the projects website (https://github.com/run-bhyve/cbsd) or just give it a try on a test vm.

QuickStart:
pkg install cbsd
service cbsdd start
env workdir="/usr/jails" /usr/local/cbsd/sudoexec/initenv
cbsd jconstruct-tui
cbsd jstart 1

Use the tui to get familiar and afterwards you may use it without (if needed).

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Puh, after almost 20 years (when version 1.1 got released in 2005) I switched from to . Feels strange because I always refused to use any other jail manager. But I guess it's time to move on... Btw, also like the TUI if .

Have a nice weekend fans (and of course also everyone else).

Dashanan »
@Padukajorat@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Let's start weekend with wallpapers

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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

25 years ago today, Google was founded.
On the same day, I wiped Windows 98 off my computer, believing that Debian Linux (which I had been using for a while but still kept Windows on another partition) could do everything I had been doing with Windows until then.

Since that day, many installations of Linux, *BSD, MacOS have graced my computers, but Windows has remained, on a few occasions, only an occasional (unwelcome) guest.

In the spirit of a typical support group phrase, I can joyfully say:
'Hello, I'm Stefano, and I haven't been using Windows as my primary operating system for 25 years.'

Please boost and share your experience!

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Graham Perrin »
@grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Hello, I'm Graham.

I don't recall Windows being my primary operating system at any time during my three decades with an organisation where the thousands of staff do, mostly, have Windows as the primary OS.

@stefano

Ricardo Martín »
@fluxwatcher@mastodon.social

@stefano 23 years since the days of Linux Slackware and SUSE :)
Those were interesting times, when people thought Windows 2000 would save them from the Novelll Netware license extortion, and few knew who the BSA was.
Today, I still have a physical disk with a duly licensed copy of Windows, only for Steam.

release_candidate »
@release_candidate@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@stefano last time I used Windows was in 2014 or so. Windows 7 era.

At that time I was playing lots of videogames, so I always dual-booted my computer.

But then I couldn't play any more, so no more Windows for me. I still have a win7 VM called "wintendo" if I want to play something easy on GPU 😅.

Lovis IX ♿ »
@lovisix@social.zdx.fr

@stefano

I my case I newer own a computer run any king of windows. From 1992 to 2000 I had a Linux host. After my first correctly payed job, I brought a Mac. With Mac OS X I was happy to use my Unix knowledge ans Mac OS X GUI. Since about 10 years, I only use… . First on Apple hardware then on Lenovo ThinkPad.

And you know what? I'm really happy with, without paie a lot to a commercial company.

Gabriel Moreno »
@osb@social.rootaccess.org

@stefano I switched to Linux after having enough with windows 95 and 98. This was in the summer of ‘98

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@milan@social.tchncs.de sehr cooles Feature, habe ich früher oft genutzt, mittlerweile saugt es mir aber zu sehr am Akku (ohne Dauerstrom)

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gyptazy »
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@fluxwatcher@mastodon.social @lme@bsd.cafe @stefano@bsd.cafe I can fully understand this and we have short meeting minutes listed at https://bsdpub.bsd.cafe - e.g. for yesterday https://wiki.bsd.cafe/docs:weekly-bsdpub-meeting-minutes-2024-05-09. So, I'm open for recommendations. Let's discuss it in detail in the next meeting.

Unless this is clarified and discussed with you all, we will not publish any recordings. If the outcome should still be that it should be published, I can still upload them afterwards.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@hnygd@mastodon.africa @stefano@bsd.cafe @parvXtl@tech.lgbt @lme@bsd.cafe @meka@bsd.network I think we need to discuss this topic in more detail in the next session. I can fully understand everyone and I currently do not have any clue what is a better choice.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@lme@bsd.cafe @stefano@bsd.cafe I can fully understand this and had initially the same thoughts.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@parvXtl@tech.lgbt @lme@bsd.cafe @stefano@bsd.cafe @meka@bsd.network They do. They need an active opt-in which was done by all participants yesterday.

But the question is more if we want to do this on a weekly base at the beginning, or a checkbox where a user must confirm to enter in general. I think, we need to improve this in general.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@lme@bsd.cafe @stefano@bsd.cafe fair enough and that were excactly our first initial thoughts when starting the call.

In the meantime it worked out, that it might be more valuable to record these calls because they shifted more into background stories, technical guides and solutions instead of a typical pub chat with ranting and regretting afterwards.

Yesterday, there was a discussion about bhyve and where VMs might get killed by the kernel when initially starting all the VMs after a “hypervisor” reboot due to memory pressure and @meka@bsd.network and @stefano@bsd.cafe talked about approaches by running in and make use of the dependency handling.

I think this is a valuable information to share, like all the other ones.

But I can also fully understand your point of view, because I was on the same page. It was also a choice to take pressure away and make people more comfortable to involve themselves into discussions but no one was against a recording. So, currently it looks like I was wrong and a recording might be worth.

The other thing is how to provide the recording, I can see benefits by placing them on YouTube (to share valuable information to a as many as possible) and to get more awareness for BSD in general. But I can also see the benefits of just keeping it in a non public PeerTube instance. So, this is still open…

I’m happy to get more input regarding recordings in general and also where to publish.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@lovisix@social.zdx.fr @stefano@bsd.cafe awesome idea! You might also share your results here or even in one of the next calls if you like. Or if you encounter issues, ask for possible solutions :)

Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

The meeting, organized and managed by @gyptazy has concluded and it was definitely interesting.

This meeting was recorded and will be published.

See you next time!

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gyptazy »
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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Thank you, glad to hear that it was valuable and interesting!

We do not want to make any pressure to anyone. As soon as you feel comfortable enough, go ahead :)
No one will judge you, everyone starts at some point :) Happy to see you next week again!

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Thanks everyone for joining and also for the useful information and insights - I really appreciate it!

If you like join our weekly meeting you can find more information at https://bsdpub.bsd.cafe


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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Definately! Feel free to jump in at any time! :)

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gyptazy »
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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@systeemkabouter@exquisite.social sorry, I meant the hardware part. Currently I have my Proxmox cluster running in a DC but think about moving home and tunneling static ips home for auth dns etc.

Currently looking into something like 3x geekhome with ryzon and 64gb ram. But they’re limited at 64G for each device. I’m looking for something that can hold up to 128gb memory

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gyptazy »
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gyptazy »
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@stefano@bsd.cafe Thanks a lot! Fun fact, just needed something like this today. But there may be some black box & minimal systems where parsing the json output requires more parsing with grep, awk etc.

Therefore, I just created a PR (https://brew.bsd.cafe/BSDCafe/checkmyip/pulls/1) which will return just the raw IP by requesting the context path /raw. So you can directly use it in shell scripts like:

ipv4=$(curl -4 myip.bsd.cafe/raw)
ipv6=$(curl -6 myip.bsd.cafe/raw)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@irrewirre@social.tchncs.de was ist noch schlimmer? Eine Gruppe von Männern mit einem dritten Bollerwagen zum Transport de Alkoholleichen.

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gyptazy »
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@meka@bsd.network happy to see you later :)

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gyptazy »
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gyptazy »
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@grahamperrin@bsd.cafe @jbzfn@mastodon.social bringing back macOS Server with the features of the iCloud as a self host solution would be really awesome.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@systeemkabouter@exquisite.social what kind of system(s) are you running in general?

BSDCan »
@bsdcan@bsd.network

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@stefan@onlyfriends.cloud I guess that highly depends on the personal circles. Like everywhere (also including Twitter/X). That's the way of social medias but if you force yourself just to focus on your personal circle (I mostly have filtered any boosts), you can quickly scroll through your timeline and only fetch the interesting parts for you.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@stefano@bsd.cafe that’s awesome and makes it much easier to handle.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@h3artbl33d@exquisite.social awesome! Happy to meet you there :)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@tdr@masto.nu Are you happy with it? I mean, having the data at home is cool. On the other hand, higher latency, additional point of failure in the chain, power consumption at home + hardware itself isn’t much cheaper than renting in DC (at least in Germany).

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@vees@epistolary.org unfortunately, I do not have and always thought about getting one. But I’m not a fan of having huge batteries at home. By a single power outage in the last four years I think I can live with this and let’s keep it serious - it’s just the „production“ setup of my personal infrastructure (except of BoxyBSD).

No one cares if my blog, email, matrix or Fediverse is not reachable even for a whole day :)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@lcheylus@bsd.network Kudos to jiangcuo for providing all the efforts by providing all the compiled stuff (see also: https://github.com/jiangcuo/Proxmox-Port)

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gyptazy »
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@vees@epistolary.org when re-initiating the connection from the customer line, I guess in a second which could still be in a tcp retransmission window without even breaking client connections. As soon as the pppoe interface ip changes the hook can be performed to restart the tunnel to the vps

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@lcheylus@bsd.network thanks for sharing :)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@waldi@chaos.social latency, latency… but except of this.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@systeemkabouter@exquisite.social that was excavtly my idea.

Everything gets tunneled through the wg tunnel an terminates at home to have a static ip externally

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@vees@epistolary.org that’s why tunneling the static ip from a cheap vps through a wg tunnel home. Everything reaching the public ips of the vps terminates at home in that case

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Homeserver at home for „personal production“ usage on a fast customer line w/o static ip via wg tunneling (to fetch cheap static IPv4/IPv6 from a cheap vserver). Yay? Nay?

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Howto get Grafana alert notifications in your Matrix channel?

With this webhook it is easy to forward all notifications to your desired Matrix channel.

https://gyptazy.ch/howtos/howto-integrate-grafana-matrix-alerts-with-webhook/

The Real Grunfink »
@grunfink@comam.es

I'm glad to announce the release of version 2.52 of , the simple, minimalistic instance server written in C. It includes the following changes:

Posts that were liked or boosted can now be unliked and unboosted.

Outgoing message timeouts are no longer hardcoded and can be configured (see snac(8) for more information).

Fixed a bug that caused some incorrect unfollows under special conditions (with shared inboxes enabled and users from the same instance that follow each other, the internal message distributor was confused).

Mastodon API: Added support for lists.

Added a header to avoid over-zealous caching in some browsers (contributed by louis77).

Added support for running and federating inside hidden networks like Tor, I2P or Loki (contributed by iwojima).

Fixed an error processing polls coming from Pleroma instances.

https://comam.es/what-is-snac

If you find useful, please consider buying grunfink a coffee: https://ko-fi.com/grunfink

Usage tips: Use social media as little as possible. Go for a walk. Meet with friends. Read a good book.


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@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@dexter@bsd.network @bsdcan@bsd.network better offer covering with FreeBSD logo 😏

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

Thank you for providing another awesome service! Let’s brew ✌️

Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@cnx@larkspur.one @cnx@larkspur.one @zirias@bsd.cafe best combination if currently probably openbsd with Vf2

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@cnx@larkspur.one @zirias@bsd.cafe There’re, but not with h flag for hardware virtualization.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@zirias@bsd.cafe @BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe I think ARM64 is already on a really good track and therefore I wanted to push RV64 instead, because there it lacks massively. Unfortunately, there isn’t any H flag capable system present right now. And only jail based is probably not enough and worth the efforts.

My dream would be to offer open/net/free BSD on amd64, arm64 and rv64 at boxybsd.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@solene@bsd.network just hanging in, using also full and have the same issue (especially with network part).

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe From a technical perspective this is already in place but I’m not sure if I want to proceed with all the other things next to it. So, let’s see if there’s a general interest into it

🗳

BoxyBSD »
@BoxyBSD@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Would you be interested in based flavors of , & at ?

Hell, yeah:43
Nah, thanks:3
Woot?:6

Closed

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@mischa@exquisite.social @stefano@bsd.cafe @EuroBSDCon@bsd.network would be awesome to meet you all in RL :)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@mischa@exquisite.social @stefano@bsd.cafe @EuroBSDCon@bsd.network I already talked to Stefano and we both have plans. Unfortunately, not yet booked. I hope to participate

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@joel@piou.foolbazar.eu @libreleah@mas.to @OpenBSDAms@bsd.network yeah probably :) also thought about but absolutely no support and no guarantees in SLA ;)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@batworx@mastodon.africa There are, like XMPP, many public instances (called homeserver), where you can create your account. Several ones also provide bridges to other networks like Telegram, IRC, etc. You can of course also host everything on your own system independently.

Beeper has a fully functional ready to use solution with probably the best user integrations in their dedicated app (for all systems). But you might also have a look on more community based servers like bsd.cafe

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@batworx@mastodon.africa what about Matrix? I mean, with it and bridges you can even access the other ones as well?

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@zirias@bsd.cafe @stefano@bsd.cafe hey! Welcome on board, happy to see upcoming interesting posts :)

If you like, there’s also the Matrix channel and the weekly call. If you’re interested - feel free to jump in :)

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gyptazy »
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gyptazy »
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@lcheylus@bsd.network I always have mixed feelings about such things.

While I’m fully into and services, I can also see the benefits of major and proprietary solutions from a beginners perspective.

I think it is always about the targeted user base and how to make it comfortable to them.

I can also see this with , where I’m targeting beginners who cannot afford virtual machines to learn and practice. However, to help them, you need to catch them at their starting point, which is mostly a well known service like Discord, Twitter etc. Beginners are not aware of the Fediverse, Matrix, IRC and all the other solutions. It won’t provide them or the communities to exclude them.

Moving code away from GitHub may reduce the visibility of projects and potential contributions. Moving support to nerd services may exclude them. Forcing them to deal with it, results in dead useraccoujts in long-term.

Teach them at the beginning, show them alternatives and as soon as they do it by their own will, they will switch and contribute.

I really love free and opensource software, projects and services but it does not mean that we should force people to avoid it. We should more be happy about people that decide to publish and contribute their code to the community in any way and also providing any solution to provide feedback, support etc. Decisions to a specific solution like Discord may have several reasons like not being aware of it, not having the time for it, no personal needs to deal with it (if it works, it works). Not everyone is deeply into FOSS or cares about it.

I always contributed heavily into opensource within the last years and was only on Twitter and never saw the needs for Matrix or Fediverse. I simply didn’t had the time nor the fun to deal with it - nowadays I’m running my own instances.

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Pratham Patel »
@thefossguy@fosstodon.org

@BoxyBSD @gyptazy wow, didn’t know you created the “engine”; will definitely look into migrating my blog to this!

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gyptazy »
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@thefossguy@fosstodon.org @BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe Oh, that’s cool! If you need any help or even have idea for features etc. - feel free to reach out to me at any time.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@thefossguy@fosstodon.org @BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe Thank you very much, Pratham! #manpageblog is of course also an opensource project - https://manpageblog.org

Happy to see you on Thursday again :)

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BoxyBSD »
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gyptazy »
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@stefano@bsd.cafe @BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe hehe, fair enough. I already worried that they might be sent back to me for not using enough post stamps 😉

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@stefano@bsd.cafe @BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe you’re welcome, happy to see that they finally arrived :)

Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Pleasant surprise today in the mailbox.

Thank you, @gyptazy !

CC: @BoxyBSD

This photo shows a collection of technology-themed stickers spread out on a wooden surface. The stickers include logos and mascots for various open-source software projects. These include a Debian India logo, two BoxyBSD logos depicted as cubes, multiple FreeBSD stickers featuring their logo and a cartoonish red daemon/penguin mascot (gyptazy's avatar). There's also a Mastodon logo featuring a blue and yellow head, from chaos.social.
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gyptazy »
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@ttyS1@bsd.network thanks 👍

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@ttyS1@bsd.network I think 64G for a local bhyve system is currently enough, however most cheap things like the geekoms tend to be limited at 64G. It would be great to have at least the option to extend it if needed

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@tara@hachyderm.io thanks for sharing :)

BoxyBSD »
@BoxyBSD@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Distribution of the most used operating systems on . Most users tend to use for their free VM. and (still in beta) share the second place, followed by .

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe People asked me, if I could share the current distribution stats of the used systems on my service. has taken the lead! and (still beta) share the second place. Unfortunately, follows as the last one.

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

I'm looking for a small barebones system like the Geekom ones or Lenovo tiny ones - but at least with 64G (or 128G) memory. Is there something ready to get or better get a 16G geekom system and buy 2x 32G modules?

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@stefano@bsd.cafe Sounds like an awesome base - just add some more memory and your even good to go with some vm workloads on :)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@Willy_Wuff@troet.cafe @Cyb3rrunn3r@chaos.social

Was da alles im
Hintergrund plötzlich läuft und warum, weiß ich bei systemd ebenfalls oft nicht.

Bitte nicht zu ernst nehmen 😉

Peter N. M. Hansteen »
@pitrh@mastodon.social

EuroBSDCon 2024 registration is now open!

Important dates:
2024-05-02: Registration opens tickets.eurobsdcon.org
2024-06-15: Proposal submission deadline events.eurobsdcon.org/
2024-07-15: Schedule published
2024-09-19—22: EuroBSDCon 2024 in Dublin

See you in for the event of the year!

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@marzlberger@mastodon.online have fun and enjoy the talks :)

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gyptazy »
@gyptazy@gyptazy.ch

@marzlberger@mastodon.online unfortunately I’m not participating today - I’m currently abroad. But next week I’m joining again :)

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gyptazy »
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Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Brewing new stuff for the BSD Cafe...

Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

I've just created a new Matrix room for the BSDPub - Weekly Meeting coordination/chats.

You can reach it here: :bsd.cafe

 

Harshad Sharma »
@harshad@mastodon.sharma.io

What a wonderful conversation, discussing BSDs, communities and the joy of using *cough* legacy software, with @stefano, @gyptazy and a few more people whose handles I don't know yet.

Thank you!

Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Just wrapped up the first virtual meeting of 'BSD Pub,' hosted by @gyptazy
Had a delightful and friendly conversation with wonderful folks, and some really interesting ideas emerged for the future. Thanks to everyone and... looking forward to the next meeting!

Details will be posted on the corresponding page: wiki.bsd.cafe/docs:weekly-bsdp

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@stefano@bsd.cafe thank you and everyone very much for joining!

We had nice talks about improving , getting new users attracted into based systems like , , but also covering the lacks of it. Outcome was, that a one already worked on that which might result in a new community project (which may also result into a new service). I don’t want to teaser too much, the related persons will provide more details and insights. It was a great first meeting, looking forward into the next upcoming ones!

More details and participating informations at: https://wiki.bsd.cafe/docs:weekly-bsdpub

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@tobyhede@hachyderm.io thanks for sharing, that sounds pretty interesting

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@d4gli@bsd.cafe @stefano@bsd.cafe thanks for mentioning the iCal file. I think especially winter / summertime makes it more confusing

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@marzlberger@mastodon.online hehe sounds perfectly fine to me :)

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@ball@bsd.network @stefano@bsd.cafe oh no 😥 hope to see you maybe next week. Or doesn’t it fit in general. His will also be part of tomorrows meeting, it might make sense to have a second time slot

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